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at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-22-2010 04:28 AM |
| As i might expect my my chances to raise first in are scarce as it seems like at least 1 person always calls before it gets to me in mp or lp. I know we should widen our raising range when first in i'm just not sure by how much |
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 alby_00
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-22-2010 01:54 PM |
At $2nl you rarely get to open raise in late position because of the limpers. So it means your main chances to open raise are utg or utg+1. Therefore I wouldn't open up my range a heck of alot on the high card side. I think opening with more suited connectors would be good because of the large number of callers. But then you want to have some post flop skills because you will be playing multi-way pots out of position which is almost always tricky. I think the implied odds you get playing multiple weak opponents more then makes up for your positional disadvantage. Usually if you miss or hit with SC's you know where you are at and it is not so eay to turf them in the muck whereas with an expanded high card opening range you will make 2nd pair or top pair 2nd kicker so often it will make for many tough decisions.
Just my 2 cents worth. |
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-23-2010 01:06 PM |
Is this a question about what hands you can play when people limp or starting hand ranges when it folds around? |
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bobby7
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-23-2010 01:16 PM |
it doesnt really matter if people have limped before you, if anything limpers make it easier to raise because you can raise a larger amount profitably. if you got a hand good enough to raise then just raise it until someone shows a tendancy to limp/call or limp/raise big hands a lot, then adjust.
this is the main reason i started to play very passive back in the day of $25 NL partypoker, almost everyone limp/called with strong hands like AK-AQ AA-QQ and so i felt that bloating a pot preflop just was pointless unless i had the same kind of hand, so i had to adjust to the way the games played and relied more on postflop play than preflop play.
these days, most people dont limp AK QQ+ anymore. when people limp its generally not premiums so you can raise them relentlessly until they give you a reason to knock it of. |
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-24-2010 03:12 AM |
| money the question is about what hands should i be raising first in that i don't raise when people have limped in before me |
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bobby7
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-24-2010 12:00 PM |
at 2 nl, only raise preflop with hands that have showdown value. big aces, big kings, pairs.
there is no point in raising anything else, start with better hands and have them hold up = winning at 2 nl |
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-24-2010 01:19 PM |
That depends a lot on who is left to act, your position, where the marks are sitting, etc...
At this level I would just stick to premium hands like Bobby mentioned. Your profit at this level is going to come from value betting your big hands, banking on the fact that the players won't fold any piece of the board.
There are way too many factors when determining what type of hands you're willing to raise. My starting hands vary from table to table and depend mostly on what type of players are at my table and where they are in relation to me as the button moves around. |
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Re: at 2nl frshould my first in raising range be much different then my normal range
Posted: 11-24-2010 10:59 PM |
where the marks are sitting, etc
it's 2nl... there are marks, and bigger marks... so does seating depend on the guy who is "tight" i.e. only limp-calling 40% of hands?
The answer to your question is simple. Wait for hands that have great Absolute value, ignore relative value, and mash betting buttons. Then you clear 2NL
I really really really wish it was more complicated than that but its not. Don't fool yourself into thinking these players are better than they are when you look at a HH... |
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