 bobby7
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cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-25-2009 07:51 PM |
i think im done with cereus, i actually think the omaha/stud games are filled with pretty good players now and i want no part of it, and in a fit of rage i self banned myself from stars for 2 months >.<
i would play pretty much everything except no limit cashgames, what do you think is a better overall site?
also if there is another u.s legal site that you think is better that i cant think of, im interested. |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-25-2009 08:51 PM |
FTP is a better site.
Cake is a whole lot fishier. |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-26-2009 05:20 PM |
I can't speak for the omaha/stud games on either site (except micro-PLO which is soft everywhere), but I'd feel a whole lot safer playing on FTP than on Cake.
Also, at certain times of day (early am US) there are hardly any tables of non-holdem games on Cake. Stud especially -- even more so than on Cereus where Stud games are fairly sporadic.
If you don't already have an account there you might want to try one of the Merge sites... they have about as much traffic as Cake and don't have any of the shady history that Cake has (sites like sportsbook.com and playersonly.com are crooked as **** and seem to be fine with blatantly stealing from sports bettors/gamblers). |
Ivey doesnt win money, money wins Ivey. |
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bobby7
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-26-2009 05:36 PM |
i am looking at the list of merge network, ive never played at any of these 23 sites it lists. infact the only one on there ive even heard of is carbon poker
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-26-2009 06:00 PM |
| Check out pokersitescout and you'll be able to find out a ton about their traffic in different games. |
Ivey doesnt win money, money wins Ivey. |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-29-2009 12:15 PM |
If you play Cake, kiss your stud-style games goodbye. They're empty.
That said, the O8 and LHE there are super super fishy. |
Arrr, matey |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-29-2009 12:24 PM |
I'm not a big fan of the ante structure for 7cs at Full Tilt. The ante for $1/$2, $2/$4 is really high compared to the bring in. It makes for a LOT of limpers with any 3, and they're actually correct to limp with a wide, wide range of hands.
3/6 at Full Tilt is a little more sane in terms of antes. 50 cent ante, $1 bringin. You still have a lot of people trying to limp, but a $3 completed bet will give worse odds and make the “limp with whatever” behaviour a bigger mistake.
If you play 1/2 or 2/4 stud at FTP, I would imagine you'll “generally“ have to be less aggressive with pairs, unless you see a chance to really thin the field, and open up your starting hand req's considerably to play more hands that do well multi-way, ie. low straight draws that I rarely play at Absolute, or big one gap connectors like TQK or 9JQ, where the gap is completely live and maybe you have 2 cards suited and decently live, any small pair, especially hidden, hoping for a set on 4th....
On the other hand I do like the heads up tables at Full Tilt. The higher ante means there is more $$ in the pot to steal, so LAG heads up shows good results.
I'd love to play Cake, as the players are fishier than the other USA sites from my understanding, and the network is growing well. Still no 7 card stud games being spread though. Lame.  |
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bobby7
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-29-2009 04:38 PM |
well screw full tilt, id sooner put more money on oddsmaker.com before i ever deposit there again.. they just pulled a very shady trick on me, lucky for me i only made a min deposit, told me i didnt need to submit id etc. and i made sure to ask this very clearly before depositing, so now that i want to withdraw they are making me get this stuff, so in my book they are a crooked site, they have probably the worst rewards program of all sites and game selection is barely better than cereus for stakes id be playing. full tilt has a couple of unique tournaments but that doesnt really appeal to me as im not a big tourney player, one thing i learned first hand when i had that week where i ran at like 20000% ROI is that the tourney grind is even worse than the ring game grind, i want nothing to do with it. experecing some success(finally) made me realize ill never be able to cut it as a primary tournament player.
guess ill just risk a deposit to cake, wont put everything in there just about 1/4 of my bankroll "just incase"
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-29-2009 06:21 PM |
I'm not a big fan of the ante structure for 7cs at Full Tilt. The ante for $1/$2, $2/$4 is really high compared to the bring in. It makes for a LOT of limpers with any 3, and they're actually correct to limp with a wide, wide range of hands.
Sounds like somebody needs to improve their play on 4th-7th street. OH!
Kiddingplzdontbanmekthxbye. |
My poker is better than your poker. |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-29-2009 11:03 PM |
What play is there on 4th-7th street in stud games besides getting there or not? lol
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SamTim12
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 12:49 AM |
| check raising 5th with stuff your board doesnt represent. That'll be one hundred dollars for the lesson |
PSORG Championship 6max, HORSE and Stud 8 Champion
PSORG Championship Season 1 Player of the Year |
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bobby7
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 12:26 PM |
basically the same stuff as any limit poker game, knowing when chasing is reverse implied odds, knowing when you can checkraise, knowing what types of opponents you can value bet thinly against, just finding ways to get that extra bet or save an extra bet, in a lot of ways i find limit poker a lot more fun than no limit and pot limit.
probably like at least 70% of stud situations play themselves, like its obvious what the right move is. getting the extra equity in that other 30% is the difference. its really the same as any other game. poker is poker no matter what variant it is... |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 02:21 PM |
poker is poker no matter what variant it is...
except razz, which is like betting on cutting cards, but with less card-cutting skill required.
And yes, I ran bad at it yesterday at the HORSE tables. |
Arrr, matey |
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bobby7
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 04:02 PM |
| razz is a poker game? |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 04:51 PM |
| Am I retarded for considering razz my favorite HORSE game then? It's obviously the easiest game to play correctly, but most people don't care so it's a fun game imo. |
Ivey doesnt win money, money wins Ivey. |
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 05:41 PM |
Razz is my favorite HORSE game too.
When people don't know how to play it, it's amazing. I think it's a really easy game to master, though. |
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bobby7
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 07-30-2009 07:02 PM |
my favorite is stud8. i like playing 8-game though because that has 7 games that i like, easy enough to just be a super nit for the short limit holdem level.
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celavey
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 01-26-2012 12:43 AM |
I've been losing to much on these games. Better quit before its too late. 
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samcox
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Re: cake or fulltilt
Posted: 02-01-2012 12:44 AM |
I'd have to say that I want to go with full tilt before, but why not try cake. Try also other sites in order to see if you can get things done and compare what they can give to you in the long run.
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