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Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-01-2006 06:33 PM |
Today I was planning to play some 0.02/0.04 cash games at Party Poker and when I wanted to join some of the tables I got the message: "These tables are for beginners only. Since you have had enough time to practice, you can now play at the regular tables. Party on!"
"Well bloody hell" I said to myself. Now I gotta go from 0.02/0.04 to 0.10/0.25 minimum. At this level my bankroll is more at stake, but still I would like to know if my regular playing style works at this table.
I'm planning to play like this:
- Play the cards, not the players, unless I sense weakness
- Play tight but agressive. Raise preflop means bet post flop... see where I am and hopefully still have the best hand. When I hit top pair... I would rather want to take the pot right away to avoid drowning in a lucky river for my opponent.
- Raise about 3 to 5 times the BB preflop with AK JJ QQ KK or AA. Limp in with lower pocket pairs and two face cards, maybe AT and KTs. I might call a small raise in late position with suited face cards or a pocket pair. In late position I might consider playing suited aces down to 7 or 8 if not too many players are in the pot.
- If I hit the flop with top pair... I will bet the pot to destroy the opponents pot odds if he's drawing to something, or if the pot is too large to get action when putting out a potsize bet... I will bet what I called/bet preflop. If I have a hand like AQ or AJ, and the flops comes all lower cards... I might put out a feeler bet and hope nobody has got something.
- If I hit the flop with a set, usually check to set a trap, and bet not too big if they check back to me. If there are straight or flush possebilities, bet more or raise to let them pay for the card to hit their draw. If they hit it... too bad for me, that's poker.
- If I flop a straight, I'll more and more play like I've hit trips if the board doesn't come a rainbow... otherwise I'll try to trapcheck someone.
- If I hit a flush or higher... it's time to sometimes trap, and sometimes bet a bit... to mix up my game so nobody will have a tell on me when I am very strong and have the (almost) nuts.
- If I hit a big draw on the flop I might sometimes bet it too see a cheap turn and a free river. Sometimes I'll check if I think someone is strong and would reraise a bet that comes from me.
So... some players here must know the 0.10/0.25 tables very good I think... so what do you think about this style of playing...? Will it make me some money?
Also: Is there much bluffing as these tables? I hope not actually because I believe it is better to not bluff at these levels because I don't think the barrier, as you would experience it in the bigger limits, is here. So getting called more often would be possible. I bluff rarely, like for instance when I sense weakness and I've got a hand that could be enought to take the pot down.
So let me know what you think mates! Thank you very much!
Greets
Kurt
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-01-2006 06:53 PM |
sounds good to me ... 
only question i have is:
if playing Axs in late postion with X to as low as 8, the i assume you looking for flash draw ... in that case Ace is important and not the kicker ... so whast difference btween 2 and 8 in this situation ?
And with A2s you have more outs then A8s
as you can hit low S8
Apart from that .. sounds good to me.
Also remeber that if you are calling to get a flush or a flush draw and will get a pair .... then keep in mind that it is not what you was playing for ... i lost a lot of money playing those kind of cards wrong (TP with weak kicker)
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-01-2006 07:28 PM |
That's a very interesting point of you Macio, thank you for that. I would like to say that I really hate playing suited aces like A8s or A9s, I just don't really feel confortable with these hands, but still, if not too many people in the pot... my 8 or higher kicker might be enough... and there is a good chance of hitting top pair with my kicker if the flop comes out 3 6 9 for example.
But still, I would play these hands VERYYYY cautious because I don't really like them, but sometimes you can win a big pot with them... Still I would fold em most of the time... Depends on the opponents too...
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-01-2006 10:08 PM |
With AXs, you basically want to see the flop as cheap as possible, but you actually want as many people limped in as possible (in general). First, this gives you more people to hit things like sets and two pair if you do nail your flush. Second, you generally have better pot and implied odds for chasing a draw from the flop. The only bad thing with many people in is that if there are multiple aggressive bettors in the hand, then it can be difficult to get good odds for chasing a draw. But then again, if you flop it with agressive bettors, you are in great position.
You might want to also be willing to call raises with your smaller pocket pairs. These are golden when they hit against someone with a hand that was strong enough to raise with pre-flop.
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-01-2006 10:19 PM |
| cashout move on to a new site that offers a game level you like and a good deposit bonus. |
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-02-2006 12:14 AM |
People play badly at these limits and the more hands you play the more chances you have to trap them. I wouldn't go with such a mechanical style.
People are incredibly passive at these limits. Play your position and put the pressure on them. Don't be scared to bet with A high or even nothing when checked to by a passive check machine.
My advice is know the situation and know what type of hand you need. Play your opponents, don't play the cards, you won't get enough good hands paid off to overcome the rake. Position + aggression is key. |
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-02-2006 07:58 PM |
Mitch,
I think that at Nl$10 and NL$25 you should play your cards more then people are there is some many bad players there that it will be hard to get good read on them. Unless you have a good player at your table that is regular.
I play low levels and playing cards more then players is what paying me off nicely.
Also i will not agree with playing as many hands as possible as this is bad advice for those that play low limits. This people are new to poker and if they try to play as many hands as they can they will loose more then they can win, add some bad beats to it and there you go .. i know this from my own expirience. I used to play KT and when flop comes K high i couldn't fold it ....
For someone expirienced this could be a good way to win loads of money but most of the people that play low limits are new guys that are just learing how to be winning players ....
Although there is one thing i will agree with you ... AGRESSION is the key
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Re: Kicked me out of the micro limits...
Posted: 09-03-2006 01:03 AM |
I guess I should explain it a little more.
I take cards seriously pre flop to a certain degree as in I don't call bets unless I have a big hand and I would normally reraise if it was big enough to call with. If you sit and wait for AK, AQ, AA,KK, and the such your going to go broke in blinds.
I try to play the majority of my decent holdings from late position when there are no limpers, or if limpers are constantly limping for a bet and folding or check folding pre or post flop. I play them for a raise 80% of the time and the other 20%call if the table is passive enough to get a few peeps in the pot for cheap when I have a decent hand for a multi way pot.
When I hit a flop I play it accordingly and cheaply if it is questionable. Control the pot odds with your bets. Don't get involved in big pots without a big hand but don't be scared to play. Just play in position and play aggressively and maximize your chances to win.
Mix it up a little, just learn how to PLAY your hand. People will go broke all day at low limits with top pair top kick, bottom two, and often times even worse. etc. Know what you need to have against each opponent to beat them, who is tilting, who to avoid etc.
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