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AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 08-21-2006 07:10 PM |
Everybody likes JJ, QQ, KK or AA... But what about this:
I've been playing the 0.02/0.04 micro limit tables alot lately, and I've managed to beat them and make "regular money" out of it. But a while ago I was thinking:
When I have KK or AA, I raise to about 0.16, maybe 0.20 with KK in a game with BB 0.04 , but when I got JJ or QQ, I would more likely raise to say 0.24, because when people here call with the rag aces or kings I might get kicked out because this fish get lucky.
JJ or QQ are not better then KK or AA, but because of this higher raise I will manage to kick off these Ax or Kx players who get lucky and catch an ace or king. But with AA or KK, I have a good shot at winning so I raise it up to kick off rag hands, but still manage to keep some players in the game so I can (mostly) make some money.
If I hit trips I'll check, otherwise I'll bet agressively if I think someone is on a draw and bet about another 0.20 when the flop is regular and my top pair holds.
What do you guys think about this strategy?
Thanks, Riverdale27 |
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Re: AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 08-21-2006 08:47 PM |
My mind boggles at the idea of having a straregy at a .02/.04 limit table. 
While your strategy does seem sound, I really can't see .04 making anyone change their mind about playing their Ace or not. Also, I would be worried about anyone you play against alot being able to figure out your betting strategy. This is why I always raise the same amount preflop (well, almost always, at least 95% of the time), adding variance only to account for the number of limpers in the pot already (more limpers means a bigger raise). So people know I have a strong hand, but they don't know if I have AK or AA or TT. Makes it harder to know if my bet on the flop is a bluff or the real thing.
If you hit your trips and it comes around to you as the pre-flop raiser, I almost find it works better to make a small bet, like 1/3 - 1/2 the pot. That way you are kinda saying ok fine, I'll still represent that I'm strong by betting, but no, not really strong. Hopefully, they re-raise, I can slow-call it and on the turn, check and then re-raise or continue to sleep depending on how the board looks.
Kinda depends on how passive / aggressive the player is.
Cool story kinda related to this, about a hand last night (a night I ended up making $400 at the .50/1.00 NL table by the way).
I pop AA UTG on a fairly aggressive table, so I just call, hoping to be able to re-raise someone. Well, of course not. It folds all the way around to the BB, who, after a little hesitation, checks. Flop comes 3-A-K with two hearts. BB throws out $1, I kinda don't like the two hearts out there, but I go ahead and just call, gotta squeeze this for all I can. Turn comes 9....of hearts. My heart sinks. BB bets like $2, fine I'll call, not laying down that easy. River comes.....K....boom Aces full. He pushes in like $5, I double it, he goes all in with the $39 or so left in his stack....HA ! Not sure if he had the flush, or possibly Kings full, but that was a sweet hand.
stephen
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Re: AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 08-21-2006 10:01 PM |
My mind boggles at the idea of having a straregy at a .02/.04 limit table
I find these players very passive and I think this is a great place to start a NL strategy. After all, if you can make $50 a day playing 2c poker, why not do it? |
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Re: AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 08-22-2006 05:12 AM |
Although most players at that limit probably don't bother looking for betting patterns, you might get stuck with a bad habit of known betting pattern when you move up. That's why most players raise 2-5BB independent of your cards. A standard average raise I have impression of is ~3BB +1BB per limper.
Furthermore, with a 6xBB raise with JJ/QQ you gotta look at other factors. What's your position, how many limpers, what's their stacksize etc. I don't know what happens when you make such a raise UTG on the micro-limits, but it looks -EV to me. You're putting 6 BB in a pot with 1.5BB in it and (in theory) the only ones who will play with you are hands that have you beat or at best are coinflips (AA/KK/AK maybe AQ and QQ to your JJ).
If however, people call with A-rag, K-rag or even mid/low pockets you're doing good as you want them to pay for playing poor cards. You have to adapt to this when moving up though, as these mistakes gets rarer and rarer the higher up you go.
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Re: AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 08-22-2006 06:05 PM |
Yes I realise that, and thank you for your replies...
I think I'm going to spice my bankroll a bit more, and then try out the 0.05/0.10 tables, wich I don't think differ much from the 0.02/0.04 tables... But I'll see when I get there. |
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Re: AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 09-05-2006 09:58 PM |
| Just bite the bullet and move up to $25 max, you will thank me later |
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Re: AA, KK, QQ and JJ: what about this idea of mine?
Posted: 09-05-2006 11:10 PM |
Ok..
I know Mitch means well but I'm not sure I agree here. In my experience, there's no substantial differences between the $10, $25 and $50 NL tables...I'm sure that he's meaning along the same lines, but the problem is you will run into the same kind of stupid beats at $50 table that you will at $10 table so if you don't have sufficent roll, it only takes a session or two to screw you over. As for your strategy, I don't think that amount is enough to push people out (namely those you want out...). What I like to do is bet the pot (that's for AK/AQ/AJs if I'm giong to play them as well...) and isolate it to two or hopefully one other. Then more often than not, a standard bet postflop ought to be able to take it. |
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